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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-07-2017, 07:35 AM Thread Starter
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Okay, so I have done a major rebuild on my front end to include wheel bearings, ball joints, and A-arm fittings. But both wheels appear to be loose like the wheel bearings are shot. I haven't torn it down yet, so I don't know if maybe the wheel bearings are shot again. But they would have less than 200 miles on them. So I'm guessing my outer joints at the end of the axles are shot or maybe the knuckles. Once again, just fishing right now to see if anyone has had a similar issue. I'll hopefully get the wheels taken off tonight and see what is shaking, literally. I'm pushing 4,000 miles on her so I can see why I may need to replace some other stuff.

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All Balls bearings?


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Oilcan,

No, I don't think so. I know the upper ball joints are not Honda brand, but I'm sure the wheel bearings are Honda. I try and always stick with Honda parts. Do the All Balls brand wear out fast?

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Heard lots of problems over the years with the all balls bearings.
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you got it Phil, stick with the Honda bearings.... did you press them in or did they drop in? The latter would indicate the knuckle , Easy to check the ball joints with a pair of channel locks, they should be hard to compress, the boot not ripped and greased (you can use a needle to get inside the boot (grease needle)) With the front end off the ground and supported so it won't fall on you, inspect the connections, Tie rod ends and ball joints. The axle nut should be tight no back and forth movement if you tug or push on the wheel. Hands at 12 and 6 push and pull, while looking for obvious movement, then switch your hands to 3 and 9 do the same thing. Could be anything up there so be patient , have a bright light and move everything. Lastly, time...about 15 minutes to check, it's a 2 beer task


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Thanks guys. I did have the bearings pressed in, so that should eliminate the knuckle. I had the same dealer press both bearings in and to my fault, I assumed they were Honda, because they are a Honda dealer. But when I got my last two ball joints, he gave me All Balls brand and I asked why and he said they fit more machines. I also questioned why they were more expensive. But I was 2 days from going on a ride so I had no choice. I'll jack her up tonight and see what I can find out. Worst case I'll pull the knuckles and take them both into the dealership and see what they say. And order Honda wheel bearings if I have to. Good info on the knuckle.

On a side note, I have been doing some work on my Teryx. Amazing how big all the parts are on the front end on that compared to the Rinny. But a 1,200 Lbs machine verses the Rinny, I guess I understand why.

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Phil,

it may be possible to over tighten the axle nut therefore causing the bearing to have to much of a side load and that will cause them to fail quickly. I have also seen times where a new bearing will come with next to no grease under the seals. I like to pop out the seals and repack the bearing before installing it.

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Shane,

Good to hear from you. I think I will take both hubs off and replace both bearings. I'll have the shop press them in, but I'll grease the heck out of them with Bel-Ray waterproof grease. I'll also use a torque wrench to put them in at the right torque settings. I can't do squat right now. I messed up my back moving my dads stuff out of the nursing home. I'm getting better after 3 trips to the chiropractor!! Sucks getting old. That new Honda Talon sport SXS is calling my name!!


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Phil,

it may be possible to over tighten the axle nut therefore causing the bearing to have to much of a side load and that will cause them to fail quickly. I have also seen times where a new bearing will come with next to no grease under the seals. I like to pop out the seals and repack the bearing before installing it.

2007 Rincon, Moose racing A-Arm Guards, Alum Products skid plate, Atv Guru front bumper, Moose Rear bumper, Koplin trunk, Crank Case Vent, Big Horn 2.0 Radial tires. Line-X Racks and Bumpers. 3500 Lbs Superwinch, Cycle Country Plow, Oil cooler spacing mod, screen mod, grease fittings on front and back A-Arms.

2007 Rubicon. TerraCross Radial tires, Honda skid plates, A-Arm guards


2008 Teryx LE, Big Horn radial tires, 3000 Lbs. Superwinch, Blue tooth stereo.
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Phil.... a "maybe" here but have a look at possibly your new Talon......

https://hondasxs.com/threads/spy-pho...xs-sport.6997/

It WILL replace my RZR 1K about a year after they release it.


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Okay, the back is in good enough shape to tear the Rincon down. I took the right side off first. The wheel was loose like a bad wheel bearing. I took off the hub and the good news is it was greased up really well, and the bearing seamed fine. So I pulled the axle. Not sure if you can see it in the pictures but there is a pretty good wear mark on where the wheel bearing sits. I'm guessing this is my problem. But I'm taking it to the dealer tomorrow. Looks like I'll be getting two new outboard joints or two new axles as I'm not sure if they just sell the joint.

If you have experience with this, please post.
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2007 Rincon, Moose racing A-Arm Guards, Alum Products skid plate, Atv Guru front bumper, Moose Rear bumper, Koplin trunk, Crank Case Vent, Big Horn 2.0 Radial tires. Line-X Racks and Bumpers. 3500 Lbs Superwinch, Cycle Country Plow, Oil cooler spacing mod, screen mod, grease fittings on front and back A-Arms.

2007 Rubicon. TerraCross Radial tires, Honda skid plates, A-Arm guards


2008 Teryx LE, Big Horn radial tires, 3000 Lbs. Superwinch, Blue tooth stereo.
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