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dirtyboy · 01-14-2008, 03:16 PM

How many of you change out the O-Rings for the filter cap and drain plug as the manual recommends?

**Ultratec** · 01-14-2008, 03:18 PM

Not me.. Wouldnt bother either. Maybe every year or so, or longer, or never :-)

**Mudbuddy** · 01-14-2008, 03:29 PM

I inspect the orings if they show no signs of damage (cuts or nicks) I don't bother, now on my harley I replace the drain plug oring every change it always is scared up for some reason.

**Ultratec** · 01-14-2008, 03:36 PM

Exactly. I would and do, keep one of each on hand, if it looks bad or they leak, I will throw one in. They should last and go along time before they would need replacing. Wipe them clean, put some fresh oil on them, and good to go. It wouldnt hurt to do it every time obviously, but is it necessary? No

dirtyboy · 01-14-2008, 04:01 PM

Thanks guys!

ATVtech · 01-14-2008, 09:13 PM

I replace the drain plug o-ring and crush washer at every oil change.
I replace the oil filter cover o-rings every other oil change.
Cheap insurance, I say.

I've said it before Ultratec, I'm anal about certain things...

Corndog · 01-16-2008, 05:36 PM

I do it every other oil change. The o rings should not be compressed more than a couple times. You guys have wierd priorities. Spend away on mods and save $1 on a friggin O ring. The crush washers should never be reused. An oil leak in the woods sucks bad.

I save by only changing my oil filter every 1200 miles, oil at 600 miles.

**Ultratec** · 01-16-2008, 06:09 PM

Anal is good, no doubt about that! Its also a good idea.. I just never had a leak in anyone of those locations to warrant an oring or crush washer replacement. Maybe I just have been lucky. It also includes my vehicles. If it did leak, it would just be tear drop hanging there, wouldnt empty the case and leave you stranded.

Like I said, anal is great, if your anal about that, than its awesome, wish I was, but I am not.

I am anal about things also, things that would probably make you think I was a wacko, and just so you know, but keep it a secrete, I am :-).

**Mudbuddy** · 01-16-2008, 06:53 PM

LOL I have International trucks that have over 150,000 miles on them with oil changes every 5000 miles on em with a oring on the drain plug that have never and I mean never been changed I do every change and only keep one on hand in case it falls off and goes down the oil tank which has happened once in 15 years. I have yet had one leak on me.

ATVtech · 01-16-2008, 10:45 PM

Corndog, I agree with the vast majority of your thoughts and opinions. You're right, people *do* have weird priorities - spend hundreds on lift kits and monster truck tires, purchase every power-up part to make the Rinny stronger/faster, buy every accessory known to man... and skimp out on maintenance. Doesn't make sense to me. O-rings and crush washers are cheap to buy and they provide peace of mind. Peace of mind is priceless. Why not buy a dozen or so crush washers and a dozen or so of the various o-rings that seal things up on maintenance items? Maybe it's just me.

That said Corndog, I question your decision to replace the oil filter every other oil change. I just plain fail to see the logic in that decision. Yes, you're saving money by replacing the oil filter every other oil change, but that savings is short term. Believe me, in the long term, that decision could come back to haunt you and wipe out all those savings. In fact, it could end up costing you big time.

To be perfectly honest, given the choice between never replacing crush washers/o-rings and replacing the oil filter every other oil change, I recommend the former.

01-14-2008, 03:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
dirtyboy Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Zeigler Posts: 111	Oil change and O-Ring replacement How many of you change out the O-Rings for the filter cap and drain plug as the manual recommends? __________________ 2006 680 Honda Green EFI Rincon Warn Brush Guard, Warn 3.0 RT Winch, 26” ITP Mud Lite XTR’s on ITP 12" Type 7 C Series Rims, Uni filter and Homemade Stereo Box.

01-14-2008, 03:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ultratec Administrator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 11,587	Not me.. Wouldnt bother either. Maybe every year or so, or longer, or never :-) __________________ 100% Wild, 100% Fair Chase! Take a Child Hunting When Cobras Attack

01-14-2008, 03:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ultratec Administrator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 11,587	Exactly. I would and do, keep one of each on hand, if it looks bad or they leak, I will throw one in. They should last and go along time before they would need replacing. Wipe them clean, put some fresh oil on them, and good to go. It wouldnt hurt to do it every time obviously, but is it necessary? No __________________ 100% Wild, 100% Fair Chase! Take a Child Hunting When Cobras Attack

01-14-2008, 04:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
dirtyboy Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Zeigler Posts: 111	Thanks guys! __________________ 2006 680 Honda Green EFI Rincon Warn Brush Guard, Warn 3.0 RT Winch, 26” ITP Mud Lite XTR’s on ITP 12" Type 7 C Series Rims, Uni filter and Homemade Stereo Box.

01-14-2008, 09:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
ATVtech Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 424	I replace the drain plug o-ring and crush washer at every oil change. I replace the oil filter cover o-rings every other oil change. Cheap insurance, I say. I've said it before Ultratec, I'm anal about certain things... __________________ ATVtech - Baddest Man on Rincon Riders

01-14-2008, 03:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mudbuddy Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: State of confusion Posts: 10,311	I inspect the orings if they show no signs of damage (cuts or nicks) I don't bother, now on my harley I replace the drain plug oring every change it always is scared up for some reason.

01-16-2008, 05:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Corndog Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Elk Creek, Kentucky Posts: 7,096	I do it every other oil change. The o rings should not be compressed more than a couple times. You guys have wierd priorities. Spend away on mods and save $1 on a friggin O ring. The crush washers should never be reused. An oil leak in the woods sucks bad. I save by only changing my oil filter every 1200 miles, oil at 600 miles. __________________ 2003 green Rinny (11,500 miles), "25" Bighorn Radials (white letters out) full of extra slime, water pump mod, no warning labels, E Trex, everything else like Mr. Honda made it. 2000 XR 400r (est 3,500 miles). RIDE RED EVEN IF ITS GOT GREEN PLASTIC! 2007 Suzuki VStrom DL1000 (81,000 miles), 1996 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 (333,000 miles) on tight and original motor. 2001 4Runner (77,000 miles).

01-16-2008, 06:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ultratec Administrator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 11,587	Anal is good, no doubt about that! Its also a good idea.. I just never had a leak in anyone of those locations to warrant an oring or crush washer replacement. Maybe I just have been lucky. It also includes my vehicles. If it did leak, it would just be tear drop hanging there, wouldnt empty the case and leave you stranded. Like I said, anal is great, if your anal about that, than its awesome, wish I was, but I am not. I am anal about things also, things that would probably make you think I was a wacko, and just so you know, but keep it a secrete, I am :-). __________________ 100% Wild, 100% Fair Chase! Take a Child Hunting When Cobras Attack

01-16-2008, 06:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mudbuddy Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: State of confusion Posts: 10,311	LOL I have International trucks that have over 150,000 miles on them with oil changes every 5000 miles on em with a oring on the drain plug that have never and I mean never been changed I do every change and only keep one on hand in case it falls off and goes down the oil tank which has happened once in 15 years. I have yet had one leak on me.

01-16-2008, 10:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
ATVtech Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 424	Corndog, I agree with the vast majority of your thoughts and opinions. You're right, people do have weird priorities - spend hundreds on lift kits and monster truck tires, purchase every power-up part to make the Rinny stronger/faster, buy every accessory known to man... and skimp out on maintenance. Doesn't make sense to me. O-rings and crush washers are cheap to buy and they provide peace of mind. Peace of mind is priceless. Why not buy a dozen or so crush washers and a dozen or so of the various o-rings that seal things up on maintenance items? Maybe it's just me. That said Corndog, I question your decision to replace the oil filter every other oil change. I just plain fail to see the logic in that decision. Yes, you're saving money by replacing the oil filter every other oil change, but that savings is short term. Believe me, in the long term, that decision could come back to haunt you and wipe out all those savings. In fact, it could end up costing you big time. To be perfectly honest, given the choice between never replacing crush washers/o-rings and replacing the oil filter every other oil change, I recommend the former. __________________ ATVtech - Baddest Man on Rincon Riders

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