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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-08-2010, 07:05 PM Thread Starter
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Shell Rotella T6 replacing Rotella t 5-40 ????

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=rotella-en&FC2=/rotella-en/html/iwgen/products/zzz_lhn.html&FC3=/rotella-en/html/iwgen/products/t6_detail.html

Can anybody tell me if we can use the new T6 does not look good , has anti-wear ..??

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I wouldn't use it, like you said it is energy conserving. But then again I wouldn't use a high detergent oil in a gas engine, although many guys say they have with no problems. Engine oil has been a topic of great debate many times and I stand with the position that to each his own. It's your engine and your money.
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Well said MudBuddy

Someone is always trying to re-invent the wheel.....

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Energy Conserving and CI-4 PLUS Designations The bottom of the donut tells whether the oil has energy conserving properties when compared with a reference oil in an engine test or if an oil meets CI-4 PLUS requirements. Oils labeled as "Energy Conserving" have passed the test that measures an oil's ability to conserve energy. Widespread use of engine oils with this designation should result in an overall saving of fuel in the vehicle fleet as a whole, but a particular vehicle operator may not experience a fuel savings as a result of using these oils. Used in conjunction with the CI-4 category, the "CI-4 PLUS" designation identifies oils formulated to provide a higher level of protection against soot-related viscosity increase and viscosity loss due to shear in diesel engines. Shell Rotella is rated CI-4Plus.......not "energy conserving" which is problematic to wet clutch applications as I understand it due to certain additives in the product. Rotella T6 API Certifications

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Thanks for the tips.....

Quote from WIKI (As stated above, Rotella-T 5W-40 synthetic will work fine in the Rincon. It is not a ATV/MC oil, but it does work. It is in a blue jug and can be found at Wal-Mart.)..

Shell Rotella-T has been replaced by Rotella T6 ( at least in Canada ) and as Mudbuddy said i don't think we should use it not sure if it is worth changing the information in the WIKI..
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The rumors that diesel oils are just as good if not better for ATV's/Motorcycles are not substantiated by any testing or facts. If the oils were suitable then why don't the manf. say so on the bottle?

I don't know why people think that using anything but oil designed for use in a ATV/Motorcycle is better for it. Many times is just boils down to people being too cheap to spend money on getting the right product. They will spend thousands of $ buying the right ATV and then waste countless time and energy looking to save a $ on the oil. People will say I have gone many many miles and its works just fine for me. Well, I know people who have gone many miles and never changed the oil and its worked fine or them also, you might want to try that.

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This is what I use in my quads and I change it yearly regardless of the mileage. I never run more than a 1000 miles a season so that plan works for me.
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I've been using Rotella-T in my quads and motorcycles for years..no problems and yep its cheap. The quad I presently ride has a 500cc engine, 10.8:1 compression ratio, with a 5speed transmission.....it red-lines at 10,500 rpms.........I hit the rev-limiter often.......lol

I change the oil and filter every 10 hrs on the hr meter because the clutch fibers build up in the oil. Not gonna spend the ridiculous prices asked by "specialty" oil companies...apprx $22.50 per oil change.

Team KTM uses it in both their Motorcycles and ATVs for all their sponsored racing......must be something to it.......also I run a website for RobG called PolarisRiders.com...we have a little over 5000 members on the site and a large number of them run the Rotella oil in both the Fuji & the KTM powered quads.

I also run the Rotella-T in my Honda Rancher.....its a 2004 with 1200+ hrs on it.....no problems with either compression or clutch.......I also tow lots of firewood with the Rancher every year.

P.S. I also use the Rotella in my tractors, riding mowers, and small engines.

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Can you go and check the Shell site ....check the Specs for the "New" Rotella T6 that is replacing the Rotella T.....same color Jug same price but considerable difference as far as additive ?? I'm not sure but i think it will harm a wet clutch motorcycle .

I did have lots of data on the "Old" Rotella T...and it did " on Paper" outperform many " Specialty" Oils .

Please let me know if you clarify this issue with the "new" T6

I did not havey any issues with the Rotella T....but have doubts on the T6

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Found this on-line test....years ago ...and went to Rotella T....from then on.

I'm not an expert.....do change Oil often....this article was as independent as i could find . It does rate Amsoil very well.!! But not number 1.

Link http://www.turbodieselregister.com/TDR57_Oil.pdf


I will most likely have to switch to Amsoil because of the new T6 additives.
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