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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-07-2017, 08:50 PM Thread Starter
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Possible jumped timing...

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I am in process of replacing starter reduction gears and some other maintenance. While I have it torn apart, I wanted to check valve clearance. I have it set on TDC with indexing marks on the rear crankcase cover. There is no play in the rocker arms on the intake or exhaust valves. I turned engine by hand and watched valves open and close. Just to be sure, I took out spark plug and watched as I turned engine over by hand. When the exhaust valve closed, intake opened and closed. That should be TDC correct? The next thing would be the plug would fire and go thru cycle again. I turned it to where I had play in rocker arms and piston was up at what should be TDC, it was no where near indexing marks on rear cover. Am I missing something, or did I jump timing somehow.

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-13-2017, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
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I got the timing issue figured out, it did not jump timing. Upon further disassembly of the recoil starter and stator. I found that the bolts that hold starter gear to flywheel backed out and chewed up stator pretty good. Not a simple fix like I thought it would be.FLYWHEEL.jpgstator.jpg

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Ewww, that's down right ugly.

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It's slowly coming back together. Everything inside rear cover was replaced, hopefully I will not have to go back in anytime soon. I did not replace the flywheel, it was still in good shape.
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Got it all back together, running great. So glad not to pull start every time.

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Great! during a recent overhaul, I noticed one of my yellow stator wires had burned through. I plowed all last winter with out battery issues (I thought I should have had charging issues as winch and lights were heavily used) I reattached the wires (soldered) and during the first couple engine starts I monitored the charge to battery as a healthy 14.3 I was looking at your thread wondering if I was going to have to do the same, thankfully just a wee bit of solder.
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Sorry for jumping in on this thread, but couldn't find the "new thread" option....... looking for some help so I don't have to take it in for service. I have an 07 and have noticed a sporadic noise like a "miss" or "tic" at idle (can't tell). I thought a "miss" would be Rhythmic and consistent. It seems like that has grown into a sporadic noise at low load riding (slow speed and not accelerating), and power/acceleration is weak.
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When is the last time you looked at the plug and plug wire? you could easily check in a dark place for arcs (shorts on the plug wire) .


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Thanks Oilcan! I'll check that in the garage tonight. I had a similar thing with my boat but I can't run it in the garage and rarely out at night so I just replaced the wires and the miss was corrected.
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I saw an earlier thread that said the plug wire and boot could be replaced with NGK CR3 Racing Wire. But the thread ends there and no report if it worked. Anybody try that part??
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