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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-23-2011, 02:25 PM Thread Starter
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Grinding going into Gear possible solution

I have seen a number of posts lately about the Rincon Grinding when shifting into Forward or Reverse. First a few words about the basics. Make sure you are using the proper oil. Make sure it is up to the proper level. Make sure your engine is at the correct RPM when at idle (1200 to 1250) after a good warm up (about 5 min). Lastly make sure your shift linkage is adjusted properly.

If all this is correct and we are assuming that the transmission does not have any problems shift like the following.

Pull on the right hand brake lever (just for safety). Now when you shift into gear do it firmly with a quick snap in either direction. DO NOT try to shift slowly into gear. If you do it will grind every time.

I hope this helps.

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-23-2011, 03:54 PM
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Great advise D.

Please allow me to add one more thing. If you shift your RIncon into Reverse while going Forward or vise versait's going to cost you some stripped gears. Don't do it.

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Sunk, that is some more good advice. The forward to reverse shifting also applies to sitting still in a mud hole. If the tires are turning forward you need to stop them before shifting to reverse.



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Not disagreeing, I think...., but the transfer case uses dog clutches to engage forward, reverse, and in the Rubi's case, low range. Worst thing you can do is force it whether by quick snap or putting pressure on the shifter. That makes for bent shifter rods and/or forks. If idle is correct speed a gentle slide should engage the gears. If it doesn't, a quick blip of the throttle will with no pressure on the shifter simply because the dogs aren't aligned. The detent will pull it into gear all by itself. I agree HD with what you're saying as far as a "quick" engagement but more often than not grinding is caused by something other than how it's shifted. High idle, adjustment, whatever. Just for giggles try this. Push the shifter to either forward or reverse very slowly. If it doesn't go in smoothly, don't force it but rather give the throttle a quick blip. It'll fall right in.
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Rickgto, I don't think we disagree. As I said in my post all the basics need to be covered. Like the shifter adjustment, oil, idle and such. I never said to force the shift and I should have. I do disagree with a slow shift. In my opinion that will cause the dog gears to grind. All motorcycles and ATV's use dog gears to do the shifting. You would never slowly push down on a shift pedal of a motorcycle as it will grind every time. If all is right in the transmission the dog gears should be spinning and a quick push of the gear shift should engage them. Again never force anything.

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I think we're saying the same thing, just differently....I assume you're talking about going to forward or reverse from neutral. I agree 100%. I'm talking about going from forward to reverse or reverse to forward when the machine comes to a stop. In that instance, everything is at a stop and if the dogs aren't aligned when you try to shift, it isn't going to shift no matter fast or slow on the handle. Like trying to shift a motorcycle through all 5 gears setting still. Won't happen. Anybody that plows will know exactly what I'm trying to say. Rarely will the atv shift smoothly from F to R or R to F. You just need a little blip of the throttle and the selector falls right in.
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Yes, I agree with you. I have never shifted like that is all. I always stop in Neutral for a second or two before going into the other gear.

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I have a problem with my 680 rincon 2004. it will not go into reverse no matter what method I try. Is there something deeper or could it be something like a cable adjustment. When I put it into forward it grinds but will engage but reverse will not engage just grind. It is 16 years old now.Any ideas?
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