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post #21 of 33 (permalink) Old 06-05-2017, 06:58 AM Thread Starter
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Took a bit longer than I anticipated.... After installation, adding fluids, I tried to start. Nop... the sound of free flowing gas hitting the floor... Upon further inspection I opened the carb from the bottom. removed the float and needle. Amazed at how perfectly clean everything was except for a few smaller than sand bits of what looked like carbon. Cleaned the area, reassembled and varoom... So it ran for a few moments, nothing odd just a very tight sounding spinning mass.... Today I hope to get a couple cold to warm to cold cycles in and I will double check valves, but am most happy everything seems good. One stripped oil tube bolt (size larger tap, fixed that up quick) and the carb other than the piston nick it was a calm sea...

ADMIN... please fix the photo rotation...
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Took a bit longer than I anticipated.... After installation, adding fluids, I tried to start. Nop... the sound of free flowing gas hitting the floor... Upon further inspection I opened the carb from the bottom. removed the float and needle. Amazed at how perfectly clean everything was except for a few smaller than sand bits of what looked like carbon. Cleaned the area, reassembled and varoom... So it ran for a few moments, nothing odd just a very tight sounding spinning mass.... Today I hope to get a couple cold to warm to cold cycles in and I will double check valves, but am most happy everything seems good. One stripped oil tube bolt (size larger tap, fixed that up quick) and the carb other than the piston nick it was a calm sea...

ADMIN... please fix the photo rotation...
Cant rotate them without deleting them

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waddaya mean.... every shot I put up , rotates 90 to the left... I put it on Crackbook and it's fine... how to fix please Mr.?

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mmmm k I'll wait.
Last night I cycled her thru the 2nd warm up. Each time I start it, it gets more quiet. The banging was from the decompression cam. If the dern photos worked I would post a couple pics of the cam and old piston. But I hate looking at the screen sideways, as I assume you all do so I'll wait for Mr. Goose to fix the photo rotation issue.

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had a short ride, the shifter is still 1 tooth off makes a bit of noise but that's easy to fix... the right rear is another story. Lower outside pivot bolt would not come out (I remember a poster saying they tried heat, banging with big hammer and no go... I never heard if he got it or not) Anyway I had to remove the axle nut, take the knuckle and lower arm to my press and it popped out , however the tube seems to have shrunk onto the bolt. I'll post a photo of the small broken piece of knuckle (yes I have to replace it, the bolt bushings and slide tubes. Checking the parts ... yup all balls crap.... I'll replace with Honda, as I am sure I would not be replacing the knuckle had I used Honda Parts.... I had done the rear end bushings a few years ago....
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I may have misunderstood you but did you say you are not going to replace the timing chain and oil pump chain? Also are you going to replace the timing chain guides and tensioner? I would think if you are that far into it that would be a given with the mileage you have on it. Also are you going to put in a new oil pump and water pump? I would but that is just me. I am just asking of course.

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Original plan was to open it up, but after inspection of cam chain, OP chain and guides etc, I chose to just do the top end. That alone cost over $800 in parts! the latest rear end issue was $350 in small parts like bolts and seals. I see why folks buy that all balls crap, it's 1/4 the price, but here as evidence is the result of trying to pinch a few pennies. The damn tube is rust welded to the bolt in the photo above your post HD. That bolt is $32.50! I did replace the tensioner. She runs quite and I cant wait to get it out on the trail... but another 2 weeks to wait, with the right rear torn apart....

So to replace a functioning water pump, and oil pump, guides that looked like they just went in there, Pressures that are bang on, would be a waste of time and money. The latter being more scarce these days....

I am still 1 tooth off on replacing the gear shift arm back to it's original position. I suppose I could just adjust it but I am anal that way and it is going back where it cam from. Slight grind now into reverse. Never did it before...

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Got it. It just makes you wonder after reading all the posts on here about bad chains and tensioners what kind of oil people are using and how often they change it. I have a 2005 and it has never been apart. I must admit I don't have near the mileage you have on yours but still what is going on with all these other people and there machines?

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The simple answer HD is they have no idea how this motor works. They think it can be ridden like a dirt bike or a belted machine. Every time the throttle is snapped those chains get a work out. Every time the shifter is moved while engine revs are higher than idle or the wheels are still spinning, that must be a defective Honda Part! Sure I have read the blame this and that, never me threads too, but ultimately it is all about servicing and upkeep and rider skills on this particular one off machine. Save a bit on oil, maybe use K&N and forget to oil it, there are so many "maybe's", a garage kept machine, that is put away clean, bearings inspected regularly, oil and filter changes at the right times, are all a testament to this engine and my Rincon specifically. That right rear I am working on was after all the result of non Honda parts, even having zerks there the tube still rusted to that expensive bolt... fault, MINE for trying to save a couple bucks, now I have spent that money and double again to make it right.
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