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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-18-2019, 12:32 AM Thread Starter
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03 650 stuck in first or second gear and no speedometer.

Hey guys new to the forum! I have an issue going on here.. I traded my buddy my old trx300 2wd for this 650 rincon with 2962 miles and 582 hrs. The issue was the cam chain. I put new guides, chain and tensioner. I did not do the oil pump & chain like I should have while I was in there. Got it back together she started right up. Did a test ride down the road it shifts fine and speedometer works. Got back in and finished putting my plastics and covers off. The next weekend I go out on a trail ride and I have no speedometer and it’s not shifting in either auto or esp. 4wd works and I’m not getting any codes. I did find my front axle shaft popped out of the diff. I’m pretty sure my front diff has mud and water in it by now. I’ve taken the transmission valve body off, took it apart cleaned it good, cleaned the connectors for the solenoids and bought a new AGM battery from the dealership. My 650 runs good I can ride it like it is now. I just want it to shift and my Speedo & odometer to work

Sorry for the long story guys any kind of help is greatly appreciated

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Go back over the connectors, make sure they are properly seated and dry. Start at the meter, then retrace everything you had apart, inspect and re-seat each one

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Go back over the connectors, make sure they are properly seated and dry. Start at the meter, then retrace everything you had apart, inspect and re-seat each one
Thanks Oilcan, I’ll do that this weekend. After reading on the forums of similar issues and in the service manual everything is pointing to the speed sensors in the front diff. You wouldn’t know which sensor goes to the meter and ecu or do they both communicate to gauge cluster and ecu?

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Neither. Refer to page 512 wiring diagram. The front speed sensor is a 3 pin plug with Bl/O G/Y and P/W wires. Goes directly to the TCM Trans Control Module. The meter is connected to many parts, including the TCM and the ECM. I'm trying to understand how you would know if your "not getting codes" when the meter is not functioning.

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I'm trying to understand how you would know if your "not getting codes" when the meter is not functioning.
My speedometer shows 0 all the time and my odometer isn’t counting. It stays at 2,962 miles my hour counter is working. Clock, gear position. Esp goes 1,2 and 3 but the transmission isn’t shifting. When I unplug one of the shift solenoids it will give me a code for the solenoid but when I plug it back in it’s not giving me any codes as to why it’s not shift or registering my speed.

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You need to check the Rear Vehicle Speed Sensor. The check starts on page 22-9 on the service manual.

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You need to check the Rear Vehicle Speed Sensor. The check starts on page 22-9 on the service manual.
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I didn’t get the parts bike over the weekend. The car I was gonna trade runs and drives and the guy refused to let me put gas in the rincon so it would run. Long sort short I didn’t do the trade unless I could drive it on my trailer like he said it would.

I checked all of my connections which seemed to be good and decided to look at behind the meter and looks like the bike was rolled at one point. Y’all think that could be my problem? Maybe moisture got in there and ruined the speedometer part of the cluster. I attached the picture below
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Moisture ingress for sure. Run from that guy.... sheesh!

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