What did the problem end up being I’m having same issue

 

***UPDATE***

The Rincon would appear to be FIXED! I was able to ride it for the first time over the long weekend and it worked GREAT!

I would like to thank all of you for your help in figuring this out but I would really thank XCRacer416 for his assistance.

This site is great!

Note for others, check your carb for dirt!

Again thank you all!

Z

 

Glad to hear your up and going again.

 

dealership called me this afternoon and told me to come pick it up. they said my carb was full of dirt and stuff. all they done was a complete disassemble and a good cleaning on the carb. the said it runs like a new one now. they told me my bowl was somewhat clean but it was the rest of the internals that was dirty. somewhere near the diaphram.

 

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well after 4 hours of stripping the body parts and i got to the wiring harness. i cleaned all the connectors and used dielectric grease on every connecter.then i backed it out of my shop and gave it a test run. i can actually say that all i done was water proof my wiring harness, because it did not fix my problem. i did find moisture in a round white connector by the recoil starter. no corrosion was found on any of the connectors.

i did realize something though, if i have it in auto mode and hit the gas and the switch it ouver to esp before its supposed to shift into second, esp on the screen shows its in second when it should still be in first. so i shifted down into first and it felt like it did but the power was still the same(weak).

i am loading it up on my lunch break tomorrow to take it to the stealership. talked to them and told them i only want it diagnosed, and they said they could get right on it for that. maybe if i can find out whats the matter with it quickly ill let yall know.

im bald now because of the problem, hope yall dont get the way i have.

 

i am going to check them out. thanks

 

UPDATE!

I checked all my connections and found water in one and corrosion in another so I cleaned them up and filled every connection on the machine wiht dielectric grease. I haven't been ably to test it yet (the reason for the no).

I cn't simply run it out of my house so until I can get it out of town I won't know for sure it is it working correctly. At this time I'm waiting on front brake parts before I can ride it anyway.

The connection with water in it was a large white connector located behind the motor right behind the pull starter, no corrosion just water.

The connector with corrosion in it was a small two wire connector located on the right side of the bike behind the radiator on the inside of the frame. There are two connectors on the right side that are easy to see (with the mud fender removed) this connector is tucked right behind a vertical frame support infront of those two connectors, you can't even see it with out really looking. I literally found it on accident. This connector was totally corroded.

I don't know what either of these connectors do, haven't bothered to look them up in the shop manual, but water and corrosion can't be good for them.

 

this is my first post. but mine started doing this saturday while goin duck hunting. i have a completely stock bike except for 25 inch 589's. mine was as strong as an ox until i hit a dried up mud hole that had deeper ruts than my 25's. as soon as that happened it fell on its face and hasnt had any power. i have changed my oil and cleaned the air filter checked intake and exhaust for restictions. cant figure it out. top speed right now is 30mph wot. this was all of a sudden thing that happened. i am baffled on this. by the way my inner tie rod on the front brake lever side broke earlier that morning. i dont think that had anything to do with it. but who knows.

 

While you at it go ahead and put di-electric grease on all your connections.Keep posting updates til your problem is solved.

 

Muddster,

Thanks for the information. I'm going to "disect" my electrical tonight and check every connection and spice to ensure that they are good.

Thanks again.

 

RinconFun you need to focus on the electrical and not the carburator because any kind of jetting issue will not cause intermitten problems.Electrical will.I think your problem is in your tps,pcm,or any other sensor.Also look around for loose connections or shorted to ground wires.If you think you are loosing speed signal then dissconnect the sensor when the bike is running good and compare the power derate to the actual complaint.A coolant sensor is also a very inportant signal input.Good luck.

 

Thank you, PM on the way!

 

Me and some buddies had some problems with the front speed sensor intermitent after playing in water, it would cause the bike to do the exact same thing you are talking about. although none of us have the dynatek box the fix was to pull some extra wire from the frame going to the connection, seems honda doesn't believe in radiusing wire going into connections. If that isn't it then I can't help you. Hope this helps. If you need any other info feel free to pm me

 

Koiv,

Thanks, that is what we are leaning towards but at $500 for a new brain box I am trying to explore everything else first.

 

That is frustrating. Something is really wrong. Sounds like the brain box will have to be checked out.

 

Oops, I run the stock jetting with the stock air filter. The only "jetting" i've done to it was to cure the stalling issue, otherwise it is stock from the factory.

 

RyansRinny,

It has done it when cold but not too often.

KOIV,

I had the Powernow Carb insert in long before this problem came about. The only thing that I had did to the machine was the DynaTek module. The minute we installed it it fell on it's face. On pavement it would get outrun by my 5 year olds TRX 70! We tried it out in the woods after "resetting" the computer and it still did it. We then removed the DynaTek module and it seemed to run like it should, the longer you rode it the more issues seemed to appear.

The problem with this is that sometimes the Rinny will run like a raped ape but then it will fall on it's face and have no power. With that said, it does run and idle nicely but once you give it gas to try and move, and it will, it is dead, it is slow to get up to any speed and will only run at about 26-30 mph. This won't even allow the machine to shift into 3rd gear in auto mode, if I put it in ESP mode, I can get it into 3rd gear and run about 36-38 mph before it tops out.

It is a very frustrating problem.

 

OK. Now I need to know what jets you are running. Also, did this happen after you installed the Powernow carb insert? Is that the turbine thing that goes in the air intake? If it is, my buddy used one on his Riny and it ran like shit!!!! He removed it immediatley and threw it in the garbage. Runs fine now.

 

Could this be a TPS heat issue? Has it ever done it when cold?

 

KOIV,

I have removed the DynaTek box and it will run great but then out of the blue fall on it's face. It will be running strong, you let off the gas and then get back on it and it is dead. Ther motor is running but you have no power.

I never had this power until I installed the DynaTek box and now it sucks. It is a very intermittent problem. It works great when you first start it up and go but as the day goes on you start to have more and more issues until it is flat all the time.

 

Rinconfun, disconnect the dynatech box and run the stock box. Post your results. We can start ruling out issues and figure out the problem. My riny runs perfect with the dynatech box.

 

Just a tad over the full mark. I find that if I run it just a little more than full, I have no problems with shifting and such. That was with my 03 Rincon. I now have an 07, and when I change the oil, I put just a schoosh more in. Again, no problems. If you run it lower, seems problems emerge. I believe there was a thread on this a while back. I just can't find it right now. If it works, go with it!! Other members have done the same with the good results.

 

Soulman, Why do you say the oil level should be over full?

 

sometime a little speck in your jets will run it like shit.. check those and of course clean your carb, make sure everything breathes..